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links: Klune-V References on Special Applications to left.
The "Klune-V Applications
Manual" contains tech info on aspects of Klune applications, such
as adapters needed or not as well as driveline geometry.
Shortest
Klune / T-case Combo: Klune-V Bronco Dana 20 Combo
[Shorter
than stock Wrangler T-case replacement]
Klune/Atlas
system
Is
also available, if you want to have the top of the line components and get
the best of all. I use a 2.7 ratio Klune-V feeding a 4.3 ratio Atlas in my
Grand Cherokee buildup. See combo comparisons at the bottom of this article

Klune
with 700R4 and Dana 300 demonstrates one application
Klune-V
"Extreme Underdrive" Basic Information
An
Extreme Underdrive is an underdrive gear box that
bolts in place between
the transmission and transfer case. we call it "extreme,"
because the underdrive multiplies your existing gear reduction by up to
4 times, rather than a usual underdrive of 1.2 times, or so. It is
intended for extreme four-wheel-drive applications, rather than towing
or gear splitting in a big truck. It works equally well with both manual
and automatic transmissions.
The
"David"
The
David crawler is intended primarily for short wheelbase applications where
extreme low-crawl gears are desired for moving very slowly and precisely
through difficult or very tight rock formations, and up or down
waterfall-type obstacles. The emphasis is on precision, skill and finesse.
While plenty stout, it is geared too low to be practical for hammer-down,
tire-spin applications. (If you need more tire speed, simply shift the
David into 1:1 ratio, leaving your transfer case in low range).
The
"Goliath"
On
the other hand, the Goliath is intended for full-size, high-power hill
climbing, mud boggin' pulling and tire spinning. Strength and
unstoppability are the emphasis.
Full
Warranty:
Both
units are physically the same size, and have the same bolt pattern. These
units are new-manufactured, purpose-built units, which come with a full
one-year warranty. While similar to "dual transfer case" units
in function, they are not built up from cut or sectioned used transfer
cases.
Only
Crawl Monsters Need Apply!
You're
a serious enthusiast, which means you've gone down the road and know what
you want. You've probably beefed up your suspension, expanded to
33-inches or larger tires, and added a locker or
two. You're having fun, you're moving over the environment in all its
forms and challenges. There's just one more step to go to maximize your
rig extremely low gearing for extreme high adventure. With the Extreme
Underdrive you've gone high tech and really low gearing. How low can you
go?
LOWER...LOWER...
Bottom
line, you'll be able to crawl up obstacles that previously were viewed as
insurmountable. Here's a real-world example from our R&D department
with Greg "Go-for-it" Miller behind the wheel. Here's the scene.
"We're
tracking in twelve vehicles looking for action in Surprise Canyon. We run
into a Close Encounter of the Watery Kind, seven waterfalls that by the
old book would require winches to conquer. We took on three of them just
for the fun of it. That's the point, isn't it? Loose rock, slippery rock,
big rocks, moon rocks we'll take them all on. Course, we
had an edge. First we let the non-Extreme Underdrive vehicles have a go at
it. One, a Jeep did manage one of the seven waterfalls, although he did
get sideways and take several passes to make it across. The other
guys without Extreme Underdrive packages said l et's break out the winches.
Not us in the Toyota Mini Truck and the 1977 Bronco equipped with the
Extreme Underdrive upgrade. Both rigs crawled up three waterfalls totally
unassisted and without any thrashing. Talk about a trial by fire rather
water!
YOUR
LOW GEAR JUST GOT
REPLACED BY TWO MEGA-LOW
RANGES
And
you still get to keep your existing low range, and good highway gears.
Now
Which Way Is Mount Everest?
So
You Can Crawl Over New Horizons What Else Does the Extreme Underdrive
Offer?
How
about saving wear and tear?
How
about saving money?
Extremely
Low Gearing Means Reduced Body Damage and Mechanical Breakage.
Time
to stop or turn before that rock bites your quarter panel.
By
going slower, you control what you hit and how hard you hit it.
Reduces
shock loads on axles, drive train and suspension.
Torque
can be applied more smoothly, thereby less clutch stress.
Simple
physics that pay off in reduced repair, expenses and less down time.
LET'S
GET TECHNICAL
What
are the alternatives?
Sure,
you can go another route to get low gearing. But they're called
compromises for very good reasons.
You
can:
Change
axle gearing to real low gears.
Pro:
You can get some lower gearing
Con:
You have to turn a zillion RPM at highway speeds. Not a good thing.
You
can:
Install
a two-speed T-case with deeper gearing.
Pro:
It gets you somewhat lower and keeps highway driveability.
Con:
Loss of normal low range. And no super crawling.
What
are the numbers?
The
Klune-V Extreme Underdrive's multiple low range provides the most
versatile gearing set-up available.
If
your vehicle is fitted with the "Goliath" Extreme Underdrive,
you receive three different Transfer Case ranges:
If
your vehicle is fitted with the "David" Extreme Underdrive, you
receive four different Transfer Case ranges:
What
do the numbers mean?
The
Extreme Underdrive provides the most flexible set of options
available to respond to the wide range of environmental challenges you'll
meet.
It
also means you can actually use your off-roader on the road to get to the
off-road site.
For
example: Say you have a stock Jeep with stock tires. It turns about 2700
RPM at 65 MPH. With 33s and 4.11 axles (or 35s and 4.56 axles), still
close to stock and fairly civilized. You will maintain decent highway
operation. But if you switch to 4.88 or deeper gears, the highway ride
heads toward the unpleasant zone. Worse yet, these super deep-cut gears
rely on a relatively small and thereby much weaker pinion gear.
How're
Your Mud Wrestling Skills?
Sand
or mud driving usually requires high range or normal low range gearing. If
you are missing your normal low range, a result of switching to a lower
geared T-case, you'll find yourself stuck, literally,
with an
unsatisfactory choice of either high range (not deep enough) or a too-deep
low range which restricts your tire RPM and as a result fails to pull you
clear.
Loose
lips sinks ships. Loose hill climbs pose other problems.
Normal
low range (about 20-30 to one ratio) tends to work best for scaling loose
hills. Scrambling helps maintain the momentum to keep forward-ascending
motion. On the other hand, hard, technical rock crawling will be best
enjoyed, and accomplished, using much deeper gears. If you venture onto
"Sledgehammer" type trails, youčd probably opt for a setting
130-225:1. Less than that and you'd be reaching speeds too fast for
optimal control.
Remember
our trip to Surprise Canyon and those slippery waterfalls?
"It's
no surprise that we found a ratio of 145-225:1 best suited to keep you
smoothly moving over the rocks and crawling up the falls. That's on the
way up. Gravity wanted to drag us down; the Extreme Underdrive took us
over the top. On the return trip, we got the best control from the
60-130:1 range. Now gravity tries to throw you down the mountain. Go too
low, and you won't be able to scoot if you need to correct a potential
end-do situation. Extreme Underdrive Super Crawling made it a walk on the
wild side but with total control.
"So
we had the water world experience in the canyon environment, and we looked
for another dimension. Someone said Moab. They've got slick rock that gila
monsters can't even hold onto. We blasted up Interstate 15 to Utah, then
left it for some ledge climbing. Walking the ledge keeps you on your toes
and the edges of your treads. The slick ledge rock responded best to 60:1
for climbing; slow enough for control, but enough momentum to get up the
ledges you can't straight crawl up. Going down, we opted for 145:1 as you
kind of "lowered" yourself down ledges, still keeping control.
"During
transitions between more challenged sections, like on easier trails, we
selected standard low range or 4.0:1 for best results. Extreme crawl is
too low. Too many RPM, too much buzzing.
"Final
summary: For serious Technical Rock, go for at least a 130:1 final
drive."
So
you want to go off the beaten path? Can you dance?
You're
an experienced off-roader. You can walk the walk, dance the dance, but now
it's time to learn to crawl Extreme Crawl. The traditional off-road
driving method called "Off-road Dancing" involves coordinated
tap-dancing on the brakes, clutch and gas pedal to wrangle your way
through the tough spots. Good tricks of the sport and valuable survival
skills, but it's time to enroll in Extreme Underdrive School for the
latest n super crawl driving techniques.
The
Basic Dance Steps to Best Enjoy Extreme Crawl
First
Step:
STAY
OFF THE THROTTLE!
Some
trail or rock conditions require a measure of tire spin to negotiate,
especially mud. Use Normal Low Range or High Range. This is not a crawl
application.
Second
Step:
MOMENTUM
IS NO LONGER THE PRIME MOTIVATOR!
With
the Extreme Underdrive at your control, conditions that once only
responded to brute momentum as the only way up, are now "no
problem." Without relying on sheer momentum and the resultant speed,
you also lessen the chances of breakage or going off the line or losing it
altogether. No more need to hang right at the edge that momentum requires
to carry you up to the top.
The
Extreme Underdrive gives you a new kind of control.
Third
Step:
TOO
FAST IS NOW UNNECESSARY
In
the past, as in pre-Extreme Underdrive days, the reason you couldn't hang
on without momentum was because you were already going too fast. Here's
the logic. The surface of a rock is very
slick, maybe wet, maybe uneven, too. As you move across it, the weight of
your vehicle will shift from tire to tire as it compensates. If you are
moving fast, the truck will experience a lurching motion which can be
sufficient to yank the tire loose from the rock. With the slower speeds
afforded by the Extreme Underdrive, the rig does not lurch, and the harsh
jerking motions are eliminated. Traction is maintained and you keep on
going.
Time
out for an example from "Go-For-It"
Greg:
"While
climbing a waterfall at another major event, the trail leader (an
experienced wheeler, and one who knew the trail cold), told me, 'You can't
crawl this waterfall. You absolutely must use momentum.' He didn't know I
had the Extreme Underdrive installed or if he did he didn't think I could
make the climb. I asked if I could just give it a try
anyway. 'Okay,' he said, 'but be prepared to back down.' So, I started up,
very slowly, and kept going until about three-quarters up at which point
the tires started slipping. The trail leader shook his head, 'Okay, now
you gotta back down and get us some momentum.' I called back, 'Just a
sec'.' I used another technique called 'Hunting for traction.'
"You
get the tire RPM down to almost nothing, as in one RPM. Turn the wheel a
bit to the left, and the rig slowly walks that way. Then turn the wheel a
bit to the right, and the rig walks in that direction. With this method,
you can get one of your tires to grab a small section of ridge, then start
moving again. Conversely, if your tires were spinning any faster, the
inertia involved in trying to get the entire truck moving again would
simply tear the tire loose from its toe-hold. My Bronco got climbing
again, and made it all the way to the top without any further traction
problems. This clearly illustrates that there's a whole new kind of
driving out there once you have this level of low gearing at your
disposal."
QUESTION
AND ANSWER TIME
What's
the off-roading story relative to Automatic vs. Manual Transmission?
Prior
to deep gearing now available through the Extreme Underdrive, you pretty
much had to go the stick route, especially if you were into traversing
technical rock. That choice was dictated by the fact that with a manual
transmission you would have at your disposal much lower first gear ratios
which naturally gave you increased hold-back going downhill. At the other
end of the stick, so to speak, with an automatic transmission, you had
some problems. When you were climbing one side of a boulder, you were
consequently slipping the converter in order to build torque. Torque is
good. Torque is required. But then at the top of your climb, you'd find
yourself suddenly accelerating if you didn't exercise coordinated and
precise control over the throttle and brake. It's a simple matter of
control, and with a stick tranny you got more.
Now
enters the Extreme Underdrive to change the way we look at the off-road
world.
For
loose hill climbs, sand, and deep mud, the distinct preference was towards
an automatic transmission. With a stick you are required to carefully pick
the right gearing before you started into the particular environment. You
couldnčt afford to lose tire speed even in a relatively quick shift. With
an automatic, you simply stick it into drive, put your foot into it, and
the transmission picks the right gear. A no-brainer, which means more time
to focus your attention on where youčre going.
Care
to Off-road Down a Mountain on Cruise Control?
So
there were pros and cons on both sides of the picture of auto vs. stick,
and a compromise either way you approached the matter. Not so any longer.
With the Extreme Underdrive upgrade, stick or automatic has become a
question of simple personal preference. With 100-plus gearing, it is now
possible to crawl down the steepest hill with your foot off the brake and
the tires turning about 2 RPM. Even with an automatic. You can set your
hand throttle and crawl over Sledgehammer or Rubicon obstacles with your
foot off the brake or gas, maintaining a constant speed close as you
can get to cruise control. With an automatic or a stick!
But
Is It Really Strong Enough?
The
"Goliath" 2.7 ratio box is intended to be used in high horsepower,
full-size truck applications. the gearset has an input torque rating of 5500
ft/lbs. The strength limitation is apparently only the
SIZE of the shaft you use to mate the unit to your transfer case. Different
sizes are available to fit different transfer cases. We have NEVER (in 9 years
of building these at this writing) had a gearset failure. The mating shaft is
made of high strength case hardened 8620 alloy steel. They are about as tough as
you can make them.
the
David 4:1 gearset is rated at 2500 ft lbs input torque. The
"David"'s "low" position 4:1 ratio is intended for CRAWLING.
It's "Hi" 1:1 position is intended for when you need tire speed, or
are planning to thrash. In high range, it's
strength is limited only by the size of the shafts used to mate to your transmission
and transfer case. In low range, it's purpose it to go slow. These units are a
proven reliable design with years of tough use in trail and competition
vehicles. For example
the Chevy pickup pictured below had a David in it, and was run successfully through he
original 4XOR Ultimate Adventure, including "Die Trying" in Montrose.
"Go-for-it"
Greg says, "I personally had an Extreme Underdrive "David" behind a
fuel-injected 5.7L motor stuffed into a '77 Bronco. I've flogged it for
over 40,000 miles, and wečre talking flat-out, full-throttle hill climbs
sand mud low range wheel-hopping scrambles up soft sandstone and
crumbling Moab ledges California rock crawling Interstate miles.
The Extreme Underdrive
eats it all up.
Find
some major rocks and drive!
Read the Tech Article by
Greg Miller:
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Klune/Atlas
system
is also available, if you want to have the top of the
line components and get the best of all. Kinda pricey, but awesome, This is
what I use in my Grand Cherokee buildup
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